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April showers bring... Maybe they play game 3? We discuss the ongoing competition in the SEC and which teams are getting stronger. Additionally, we talk about the Texas and Texas A&M series, and we wrap up by considering potential regional hosts.

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SPEAKER_01

STC teams are taken down lots of regulated. Hey everybody, my name is Kenny. You're watching and listening to the Lucky Finn Innings College Baseball Show. I'm with my good friend Jason I, the Lucky Finn. Jason, we got some great games to talk about as of recording. Texas and Texas and him have still yet to play. We're still in a rain delay. That's a great series. Can't wait to hit on that. But Jason, how are we feeling about this week?

SPEAKER_02

Excited. We have a lot of upsets across the board. A lot of top 10 teams go down. I think it's really going to shake up the standings for next week and the rankings and to see who we have at our top 16 later in the show.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we were even before the beginning of the show, we were we were still debating on who uh should take those kind of final spots. But I mean, that's the beauty of college ball. It's just trying to, and again, the the season's still playing out as it is, but um overall, really, really good, good talk. Uh again, as we mentioned, we've got SEC is looking, I think the SEC is getting really hot. I think that's a that's a thing that I've noticed. And uh I think it's a real good thing to be afraid of. Um how do you feel about that?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's something that we talked about the other day when we were talking about all these teams that are really catching hot with their home runs and just slugging it out. Uh, it's interesting to see Florida coming in. Uh they're they're looking really good. AM starting to pick it up. And so that just kind of I don't know, it kind of leads us back to how many teams are the SEC gonna get to host regionals? And um it's it's a topic we have every year, and it's a topic we always talk about as we get closer to the College World Series because it feels like every year they get four or five teams sitting there at the in the final eight.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah. And I and I I'm the ACC looks really good this year, and I'm hoping they keep taking these spots, but the way the SEC's playing right now, it's almost like they're gonna be coming in taking those spots. But uh let's jump into it. Jason, let's let's talk about our predictions from last week. Um, let me get it up here if I can. There we go. Uh so let's talk about Florida State, Florida State and Georgia Tech. We both had Georgia Tech taking the series, but wasn't sure about them sweeping Florida State. Georgia Tech is hot, and I don't think anybody we talked about it uh too, Georgia Tech, UCLA, they could honestly flip-flop.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's definitely something to think about as the voters are going to be making their decisions this week. But I think the other thing to note here is Florida State had to lead two games out of the series and ended up blowing those leads, especially in that first one. They were up 3-1 and gave up the lead. Both pitchers in that game were outstanding McKee for Georgia Tech and Mendez for Florida State were both pitching really well. I know it was a slow start for both pitchers, but then they both picked up in the uh middle innings, and so it's sad to see both of them end up with a no decision in this one, but tough one and tough ending in that game for Florida State, Kenny. I mean, Florida State gets uh gets a steal of second and third. You got one out in the inning, and uh can't get either run or home. And you want to know why? We get a double play.

SPEAKER_01

Double play in the beginning. That was that was a really crazy uh we seemed really I'll tell you what. I think Georgia, who stole somebody stole home, and it was that AC ACC's ballsy on the on the on the bases.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it was the guy from North Carolina against Campbell?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. So ACC's ballsy ballsy on the on the plates, man, and that I guess I think it was a good play. I I I just don't think the guy on third thought that the it was just a weird play overall because it he didn't really rush to throw to first base, and the first guy running to first didn't go all the way through. So I was wondering if he was gonna play on the you know, mishandle of a throw.

SPEAKER_02

But honestly, I kind of was shocked that he went home. I know he's got speed, and he also had just stole 30, so he was probably feeling pretty good. He was pretty confident, yeah, on that double steal. It's just tough, tough to, you know, you never want the last out to be at third. You never want the last out to be at home either. And uh, so it's a tough play, especially. I mean, if you're the next batter coming up, you're you're thinking you got a chance now to bring in the bring in the runs, and you don't even get an opportunity. So it kind of sucks from a morale standpoint. And also, I think it also comes down to did the did the did coach tell him to go or did he just go on his own? It goes back to that thing that happened with North Carolina. Coach ended up chewing him out for trying to go home on his own.

SPEAKER_00

So we got it.

SPEAKER_02

Also, that can that can impact the morale of a team. Um yeah. So curious to see how that ends up going. I mean, ended up with the rest of the series. They ended up losing both games, so kind of sucks.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Well, I'll I'll finish up our predictions, uh, just in you know, so we can lay it out and then we'll kind of jump into the rest. So we both had uh well, I had UF UCF taking the series. Uh I was wrong. Kansas, Kansas looks hot, Kansas is good. Kansas takes the entire series. Uh Nebraska and Oregon. Um, we watched that one. A lot of a lot of just a lot of stare downs in that. Both of us, both of us had uh Nebraska taking the series, got that wrong, but we still got some points on there. We'll tally these up. Um Texas and Texas AM. Um I have Texas AM sweeping. Uh Jason. To be determined. Yeah. The what? To be determined. Yeah, to be determined. Whenever that I mean they said 7:30. It's yeah, it's showing it. It's almost like a so I don't don't see that one copping up. Uh Florida in Georgia, Florida. I'm telling you, we we talk about Florida every year. Florida's a game to watch out, and then Jacksonville State. We had Jacksonville State taking the series, and Liberty kind of surprised us. Jason, out of all these games, what what's one surprises you, I guess, the most?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, the sweep of can the for Kansas against UCF. So I expected Kansas to win this series. They already came in hot, but they had one five of their last six, scoring double-digit runs. We discussed that a little bit in the midweek episode. But in this series, they don't score 10 runs at all in any of these games. Pitching really showed up for them in this series, and that's really strong for Kansas to go atop the Big 12 uh to take the lead. So, I mean, I think that kind of sets the tone for the rest of the season for the Big 12 now, Kansas with uh with the edge.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they've got a 10-game winning streak right now, and they play they play Wichita Wichita State on Tuesday, and then they have Oklahoma State so uh over the weekend. So I'm look, can't we Kansas I think would be a really cool uh way to see them in you know we don't think of Kansas with baseball, so no and we'll we'll show you later on. I mean, we might have Kansas possibly hosted. So it's a possibility. It's a possibility, but we'll we'll leave that to y'all. Um but Jason, can we talk about Florida State and Georgia Tech? I think we talked about it for a little bit, um, but I don't think we went into full detail.

SPEAKER_02

Um, or you think we are I I think I think we're good on that. I think everybody sees that. I think the other thing to talk about is that Oregon, Nebraska. So we we talked about it a little bit. Um, the starting pitcher Clark for Oregon decided to do a little stare down in the third inning on a comebacker. Um and then Kenny, we talked about this. What was it? The Auburn, Alabama game. You have an issue, yeah, short stop second baseman or short stop, whoever it was, arguing with the guy that just got into second, and then they blow the game. Well, Clark is on the mound, and it's what it was five to nothing, they were winning, and he I think it was four, and it was just this little jam shot liner to the back to him.

SPEAKER_01

And then next inning. Oh, yeah, I I think it was the next pitch he gave up. The next pitch he gave up the the I think it was a double or a single right down there.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was a triple. I thought it was a triple, but they didn't get that run in. Then the next inning is when they kicked off all their runs, and they end up getting what three home runs on him, and three of three or four batters hit home runs, and um, I think they end up get taking the lead, Nebraska does six to five in that in that game. And this was game two, right? Game two, they end it was the game they ended up winning. So Nebraska ends up coming back.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I I still don't and like again. I said, if karma is such a big thing in baseball, and I don't understand the stare down like at all. Because you are again a single pitch from giving it away, and he did. And we laughed at the fact that they kept an in two. They kept him in in the next inning, yeah. And and and they just kept giving up the runs, but uh Oregon saves the series, so um Oregon took the game today. Um they didn't do a double hitter, no.

SPEAKER_02

No, it was today. Oregon took the last game, the rubber match today. Yeah, so Nebraska was up in that game and gave it up. Oregon was the one who came back today to win the series, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So Nebraska, Nebraska is USC, and then Oregon goes to the mighty Illinois baseball team. So that's a great series, I guess you could say.

SPEAKER_02

Not really, but I think you know what's next, Kenny, is the crazy Georgia-Florida series. You touched on it when we were talking earlier this week that this was really going to be the test for Florida. They're coming in playing really well. How good actually are they? Their pitching staff really showed up this weekend, and I know it was a slug fest on the game today, but that I mean, Aiden King looked awesome in the first game. We'll discuss that a little more later. And uh Georgia comes in clutch in the second game. So what do you think of Florida taking down Georgia?

SPEAKER_01

Look, we we we hinted, I think, last episode that what SEC baseball is is power hitting. It's power hitting, it's power pitching. Florida is like the greatest definition of power baseball when it comes to SEC. If they are going to get a hold of your pitches, there's no doubt about it that Florida will be taking you yard. They are such a good hitting team. I don't care if they're you know, they they're they're ranked, they're not ranked. Uh what is their ranking now? I think I we we have it up here. I mean, not ranking, but their uh their record. Their record SEC wise doesn't show that they're great, you know, that they're doing well. Nine and six. Nine and six.

SPEAKER_02

They're sitting fourth.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so I I mean they they're again, they're that scary team. And I think Florida did this last year or one of the years where they weren't great during the regular season, and then all of a sudden they are there at the top. So Florida's a team to watch out for. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna discount Georgia out of here right now. Uh again, that that's that's a good program. Um but I mean who knows? Who knows with Georgia and who knows with Florida?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think especially for Georgia, um, you know, they still sit atop the top the leaderboard in the conference. So that's good to see, even with the series loss. That just goes to show you how far ahead they were. Um, but coming in today, they had only given up two home runs and 50 innings of SEC play. And then in the first two innings, can he give up three home runs? I think that like you were talking about the power hitting, and Florida really opened it up today. Talk about our boy Yoast, how he did today.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, Yost, uh, I believe the broadcasters were saying that he was like he could be wrong. He was batting at 100, like he's not batting that great. Yeah. And then he hit a record, he's hit a career best two home runs in a game. So he's up on the um, yeah, he goes yard twice, it's the first time in his career. Um that that's I mean, that's incredible. And that's that's that's coming through when you really need it, and that's what these teams, you kind of see that through when they get to the end of the year, you have to these guys that you can't sleep on them. You really can't sleep on them, or they'll they'll they'll come in and clutch and hit you.

SPEAKER_02

So especially especially with him being a guy that bats at the bottom of the lineup. He he just lead off, he was the nine-hole against Florida State earlier in the weekday, and he was the one who opened up the scoring in the third inning with his first home run of the year. So he opens up that home run, gets two today, and uh, you know, it kind of just whenever you think about college baseball, you don't always think of one through nine being dangerous. And when you've got an eight or nine-hole hitter hitting like he is right now, uh you you can't take that guy out of the lineup, and that just feeds for your for your pitching staff to know that their offense is producing for them.

SPEAKER_01

It's confidence. Um to to hit on that, I don't Florida's not the only team that kind of does that. Uh LSU would have Stanfield batting knife, and I don't think he's up at first. Yeah, and that's what a lot of teams one of the announcers had mentioned that maybe you know, maybe putting your best hitter in the in honestly, I've always thought about that. Why you know teams don't put their really clutch, like uh what we call it, consistent hitter batting ninth. You know, just to kind of get that, you know, if you're at the bottom of that lineup, you want to get it started. So, you know, props to Hayden and props to that Florida team. I mean Georgia has uh Arkansas this week, um and then Florida host Auburn. So those are two pretty good series that you can kind of calculate of where they're really at um for that series.

SPEAKER_02

So uh Katie, am I reading this right in the notes? Did Jordan really out homer Georgia six to zero in this series? Yes, right?

SPEAKER_01

I thought Georgia had a home run today. No, I if they hit it today, probably so because I added that while that I think their game was going on. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean they I I think we mentioned Georgia didn't even get really any home runs through that game, through the series, and uh besides last week when they were hitting all the home runs. But I you'll have to be able to take me on that. Yeah, I I'm checking it now because while you look that up, let me let's jump into the next one. I think we'll um they did not.

SPEAKER_02

None of these were home runs. That is impressive. That that tells me a lot about the people.

SPEAKER_01

I'm telling you, they're one of those hidden teams that it's just they got the guys on the team. I is I I hate I hate Florida, and that's probably why I hate Florida more. I mean, I hate Florida, period, because you know, Florida, especially in baseball, man, it's just like so.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and they improved the 10 and 1 against ranked opponents on the season. That's it's funny because just a couple weeks ago we were even talking, should Florida even be in the top 25? And like you're talking about the SEC, it just there's so many strong teams. Every week you have an opportunity to re-prove yourself after giving up a bad after having bad losses. Some programs don't get that luxury, Southern Mist doesn't maybe get that luxury, Coastal Carolina doesn't get that, Oregon State doesn't get that being an independent, but the SEC, I mean, we'll see guys. I mean, Mississippi State was number four before last week. They get swept against Georgia, swept this week, see how far they fall in our rankings later. But I mean, that just jumps right into these uh these other notable series that went down this week.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I think we we this is why we really love to hit all of this, because you know, Tennessee Tennessee lost the series to LSU. LSU goes and loses the series to Ole Miss. I mean, excuse me, they we get swept. Uh the the the Sun Belt and the Fun Belt and the American Conference. Those those are the games we got to be watching. Keep an eye on uh East Carolina take uh losing the series to Tulane. Um any surprises up here to you? Besides Southern Myths losing to Louisiana?

SPEAKER_02

Man, that that Tennessee sweep is big. So this is a Tennessee team who had been leading in a lot of games late, and their bullpen was not performing well, and they were blowing leads for them to get a sweep at Mississippi. And this is another one. Georgia went to Mississippi State, Tennessee now goes to Mississippi State, and they get a sweep of Mississippi State. So I I don't know if this says more about Tennessee or does it say more about Mississippi State, Kenny? Which one do you think?

SPEAKER_01

I think it says a lot more about Mississippi State. Um I think it says Tennessee may be figuring things out. I mean, again, like you said, they've they've blown a ton of leads. Uh, but this could be just one of those weird bumps in the roads that a team hits. But again, Mississippi uh uh Mississippi State losing the series to Tennessee is not really gonna help them. Um I believe they'll they'll probably drop back pretty big, probably not maybe around 11, maybe 11 or 12. Um but no, that that's a that's a that that was uh was that at Mississippi State or it was it was at home.

SPEAKER_02

Not not better, but uh yeah. They go to South Carolina though next week. An opportunity to get some wins. They they need that series.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they they definitely got a bout bounce back. We're getting at the end of the end of the season here, so um but other games on here. I've I mean Coastal Carolina, that's kind of a team that's still on that outside of the bubble. They've got I feel like they got a lot more to prove um for them to move in moving up. Um don't want to slip on them. We love talking about UC Santa Barbara. UC Santa Barbara's getting over San Diego. Now we talked about San Diego lose blowing that. They were they're blowing the lead, or was it comeback on game two?

SPEAKER_02

They threw the game in game two. UC Santa Barbara dropped three runs in the ninth inning to tie the game up to send it to extras, and then Santa Barbara ended up winning in the 11th inning, uh, the 11-10 final. So and them to come back and win today as well. I mean, not come back, they just you know, they won today after dropping the first one in the series to win the series 2-1. That's huge for them, especially after winning that game against USC in the midweek this week. So the playing well, another another opportunity for the big west to shine on this show. So we love to talk about them.

SPEAKER_01

Hey, definitely, definitely a regional team. We'll see. Well, I'm sure they'll be out west, or knowing how the NCAA does it, they like to send one team that's not even regionally close to one another region. So like sending LSU to Oregon, I'm sure we'll somehow get that. But Jason, it's your favorite time. Jason, you come up. Let's talk about our arms of the week. How about that? Is it our arms of the week, or did you have a trivia question, Kenny? I do have a trivia question. We love trivia questions. Let me see if I can figure out how to get our trivia question up here. Here we go. Oh my goodness, we're clicking.

SPEAKER_02

We got so excited to talk about no rules series. We forgot to go show you guys our trivia question that you can think about.

SPEAKER_01

Well, you came up with it.

SPEAKER_02

You came up with it. We were the only two mid-major programs to win back-to-back titles. So this isn't the same program winning back-to-back titles, but there were two years where two mid-major programs won titles in back-to-back years. What were the two programs and what were the years? And honorable mention will tell you fun facts of which conferences they were representing at the time.

SPEAKER_01

Am I answering this now? Am I answering?

SPEAKER_02

No, you're not. Well, it we'll look at it at the end. There's one one one of the teams is still in the same conference, the other one is in a different one. So something to think about.

SPEAKER_01

That doesn't help at all.

SPEAKER_02

It doesn't, it doesn't, but it'll be fun to discuss later, uh, considering what we were just talking about. Little hint hint.

SPEAKER_01

All right. Well, let's jump into the arms. How about that?

SPEAKER_02

About the lucky arms. So as the five arms in a lucky fin show, we got our five arms of the week. So uh I'm gonna I'm gonna butcher one of these, I'm sure. But first, we got our St. Louis senior pit right hander, Ben Cheriko. Cheriko. Cherico. Look, it's some sort of Italian name. I'm not the expert. I'm sure there's a rolling R in there. I cannot roll my tongue like that. So uh I'm just gonna call him Ben because he's our boy Ben. He's 6'4, so he's Big Ben. So we got Big Ben out there. He he threw a complete game shutout, two hitter, ten strikeouts on only 106 pitches, Kenny. So what do you think of nine innings, only 106 pitches? What does that say to you? Efficiency. It sounds like efficiency. It is efficiency. We got nine, nine flyouts, eight ground outs. Uh the only two hits in this game were a bunt in the third inning. That doesn't count. That just comes right back to the picture. Yeah, a little bunt single. And then a ball who that grounds through a seeing eye single through the left side. So we're not seeing a lot of hard contact from uh George Washington in this game. So I know it's two programs we don't ever discuss, so it's we wanted to shout out the complete game shut out um by Ben. Just Big Ben. So next we got a big game by Georgia. We discussed the Georgia and Florida series a little bit.

SPEAKER_01

My bad. I noticed my Georgia logos too down, so I tried moving it to the nips alike.

SPEAKER_02

No, you're good. We discussed that Florida and Georgia series earlier, so we want to highlight two performances in here that are on the screen. Uh, one of them was Aiden King. We discussed a little bit on Friday. He opened up with six perfect innings against Georgia. That is huge to open up the series and really set the tone for Florida and up winning that series. Um but also we on Saturday, so after Florida wins that game one, Georgia knows they need to come back, right? So uh we got Dylan Vigiew, uh comes in, pitches six innings, ends up with a no decision. Uh he only gave up one run. It was after a walk to start the third inning, gets a single, ends up scoring a run. So not the end of the world there. But then uh Caden at Aoki, you know, we should I'm assuming I pronounced that right. It's IOC. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he ends up coming in, finishing out the game, gets the win, goes improves to 4-0 on the season. But he comes in in three innings, gives up only one walk, five strikeouts, and so that's um in a big five-to-one win for Georgia. So uh, some other ones we wanted to highlight was another one-hitter complete game by Keenan Anzai. We got pronunciations here. Uh, so he gets a one-hitter. Kenny, he did that in only 102 pitches. What does that say? Okay. That sounds like the efficiency.

SPEAKER_01

That sounds like efficiency.

SPEAKER_02

And then uh want to shout out Logan Redman for uh UCLA. Tough no decision in this one. Gets 18 strikeouts and eight innings pitched. I mean, we're talking about when you really want to put that in perspective, only six outs were balls put in play. Isn't that crazy? Can he and only gave up two hits and one run? So they end up getting one walk, 18 strikeouts. That's an 18 to one ratio, and only 104 pitches. So this was really efficient from him in eight innings of work. Sucks to get the no decision, but UCLA ended up prevailing in 14 innings.

SPEAKER_01

Yep.

SPEAKER_02

And then want to slide in an honorable mention. Can you we don't have enough five arms because we're not six arms, we're just five. So maybe our lucky pin of the week, honorable mention, is Mason Edwards from USC. He had 16 K's on Friday and eight and a third on only 117 pitches, and he is the nation's leader in strikeouts with 95. So Mason Edwards for USC, that's that's another opportunity uh for USC to make the board.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I I like that USC has that that kind of hard, hard pitcher staff over there. And I've loved you gotta watch the this Caden guy for uh Georgia. I like watching him play. He's he's so he's a confident. A couple years ago, he I mean he was up on the off the mound, like strutting like this, like, all right, come on, come on, struck out the side and just put his arms and looked at the dog. The dude is so confident. Is he a starer? I think he's a respectful starer. I think I think what I mean by that is he he knows it's it's it's a confident stare because he knows that he's in the other team's head uh regardless. And it's not like a dude where uh like the other team's actually touching you, dude. Like he he's he's actually really hitting the ball well, but you're you're like, okay, I kind of need to get my mojo back, and then immediately give it up. But uh no, he did he did none of that. But I'm glad we we're highlighting the pitchers, not just the hitting, not just the hitting, because you and I we always talk about how the hitting is not that not that, or excuse me, the pitching is kind of off.

SPEAKER_02

But off and sometimes makes or breaks series in in games.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. So well, Jason, I guess we're getting close to wrap this up. Um let's jump into what who in who will be possibly host of regionals.

SPEAKER_02

Kick us off, yeah. So um it's hard to move UCLA out of the number one spot, but here's the difference in this week, right? We got Georgia Tech jumping up to two, we got series losses by Texas, Georgia. Uh, we also got losses by Alabama, we got losses by Southern Myth. Yep. So there's a lot of teams that were up there sitting in that top eight that we discussed last week that kind of fell off, and it's hard to move some of these teams around. Uh, to me, the biggest thing that stands out is it's hard to move Oregon State and Coastal Carolina, Danny. What do you do with these two?

SPEAKER_01

I think I don't think you move Oregon State up anymore. I think Oregon State needs to stay at a six. Six is six is the highest I think they need to be going. Yeah. Because they're really just playing all these whack schools, whack as in the Western Athletic Conference, not as in who they how they play. But um Coastal, I think I said earlier, Coastal I think is good where they're at. I think Coastal will move up here and there. Uh and I think it's funny because we talked about these the last kind of well, that was the last like 25 of kind of who's finding in there. And we we switched a lot of teams in and out here. Um we were kind of on the fence about Southern Mist, and you and I have, well, you said Kansas, Kansas maybe deserves a little bit more, and you said who else? Little Nebraska, little Cornhusker?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. You know, last week we had Nebraska sitting in here. They slip out um after their loss to Oregon. But I think the the ones that are tough right there is Arkansas after getting a sweep. Arkansas sitting on the outside looking in. Um Boston College is right there sitting on the outside looking in. We we got and then Ole Miss with the sweep over LSU, our beloved Tigers, sad to see. But um, I mean, this pushes them right into that outside looking in. You still got West Virginia, so there's a lot of programs. I mean, UCF loses the series to Kansas, so it's like they kind of slip out, but you still have to think about them. They're still sitting at number two, they still won that series over West Virginia. So, like we talked about, it's that that 14 to 16 is gonna be tough, but hosting a regional is way better than going on the road, right, Kenny?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, oh, 100%. I think I think what people might comment on this is I believe Auburn is, and I've said this before, Auburn is a fence team, like they've got such a tough schedule, and they haven't kind of established themselves in that schedule to to to be like, okay, Auburn can really handle this. They got a good team. I think they're just getting the short, like, they're just not getting the what they need to be getting there. So um, yeah. I I think this is a good look.

SPEAKER_02

Um, so yeah, I I think some other people that would be uh would be upset possibly is if Texas AM ends up sweeping Texas, how far up do they jump at all off of that? But I think the key thing is you want to be in that top eight. You know, not only do you want to be in the 16 because you want to host a regional, but you also want to be able to host the super regional if you get there. So it's interesting, you know, if if for whatever reason this ended up being tomorrow's uh rankings, I mean we would have Oregon going to UCLA. So, you know, some of those regional matchups are also going to be something we always want to think about.

SPEAKER_01

I and I I think they I think that should. I think if if that is the case, then leave Oregon State at six or a higher because yeah, prove to them that they should have never broken up the Pac-12 that UC UCLA should have done all that. So uh who knows? Who knows? But uh Jason, let's let's go back to your trivia question while we wrap this up. Uh before we even say anything, Texas and Texas AM have not started yet. So if you're listening and you have not heard anything about the game, that game has not started. But back to the trivia question: who are the only two mid-major programs to win titles back-to-back years? Okay, if I'm thinking mid-major, it cannot be Coastal Carolina. No, because they've only won one. Okay, they've only won one. That's a terrible You're correct. Coastal Carolinas won? No, you're correct that they're not.

SPEAKER_02

They're not in Western. They won now. I will say, fun fact, they won the last one that a mid-major won in 2016.

SPEAKER_01

God, it's been 2016.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, so so you gotta go back further.

SPEAKER_01

Did okay, was it did Fresno get close to going to two? I know Fresno's gotten one. Fresno won in 2008.

unknown

Okay. Rice.

SPEAKER_02

I believe it was 2008 because Rice is one.

SPEAKER_01

Rice, okay, Rice? Okay, Rice is playing pretty good ball.

SPEAKER_02

So do you remember which do you remember what year that was? Was it 04? No, it was not. That was the second winner. The second winner was in 2004.

SPEAKER_00

Rice, rice, rice. Rice was 03. 03. Okay. Okay, 03.

SPEAKER_02

Think of your West Coast, Kenny. We like to talk about the West Coast. Is it Cal State Fullerton? It is Cal State Fullerton from the from what conference? They're the one that hasn't moved. Are they whack? No. California Coast Conference? They're in the Big West. Oh, the Big West. Oh, the Big Big West, you see Santa Barbara, UC Davis, you see uh UC San Diego. That's the Big West. Cow Poly. Uh, so if we flash it up there, yeah. So Rice ends up winning. They represented the WAC back in 2003. Okay. And they beat Stanford 2-1 in this in the series final. Then the Cal State Fullerton, um, I believe they're the Titans.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, they are the Titans.

SPEAKER_02

Cal State Fullerton Titans representing the Big West swept Texas in the final 2-0.

SPEAKER_01

So I believe that's the year they beat Ellishoo pretty bad in Omaha. I'm pretty sure they beat them pretty bad. Let me look it up really quick. Because I I remember Fullerton just taking one from Elishou pretty hard.

SPEAKER_02

I think the cool thing is about Fullerton is this they not only hosted a regional in this year, they also hosted a super regional. And I'm really hoping to see another Big West program make it up to that kind of level again. It's great for baseball to see those those teams out there hosting regionals. I mean, they just they just have beautiful ballparks, beautiful weather out there. So I feel like every time every time, not not just LSU, but a lot of those, a lot of these coastline, east coast teams, I feel like we always end up with rain delays.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah. Especially over there. You know what? I'm I'm looking this up right now. Uh okay, let's see. So LSU lost. Okay, nine to five. Damn, what's it's just oh okay, not very good this year. So the final was so we had Arizona, we had Georgia, Arkansas, Texas, um, Cal State, Furlerton, South Carolina, Elshu, Miami. That was a pretty good that was the World Series. Mm-hmm. It's a good group. Yeah, that's a really good group. Yeah, uh Rice, Rice is doing pretty good this year, but uh yeah, I I I I agree. I kind of I'm wishing that maybe NIL or something kind of changes the college landscape where those teams kind of have a bigger fighting chance again.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah. Well, ahead of time, Kenny. Apologies to AM fans. We didn't talk too much about you guys, about your revenge series. Uh, but we're we're also waiting for it to end.

SPEAKER_01

Did you forget to mention the AM series?

SPEAKER_02

No, no, no. We talked about it briefly. Very like we didn't really talk about it, we didn't really get into it, but we also sat there talking about how we're still stuck in the rain delay. We'll discuss it a little more in the midweek, how this game ends up, and uh we'll talk, we'll get out our broomsticks if we need to to show. We better get out of broomsticks. I want my points. I want my points. Well, since we're waiting for it, let's predict it. What do you who do you got tonight?

SPEAKER_01

Well, this is a long weather delay, so I got I got I'll do the score. I have Texas winning. No, no, no, no, Texas AM. I got Texas AM winning eight to four. Eight to four. Uh the bubbles will be bubbling.

SPEAKER_02

All right. I got Texas winning this one. Not because I don't like AM. I think they're playing really well. I just think it's I would love to see them sweep Texas. I think it would be good for AM, but I also think it's just it's just hard to sweep anybody. It's hard to pick anybody who goes three of them. But I would love to see you be right on your prediction. I would I would love to be right on that prediction. So we'll see what happens though.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yep, yep, yeah. Well, anyway, guys, uh, we appreciate y'all checking in to watch. Uh a really good episode, I feel like, today. Catches during the midweek. Jason, first of all, quick props. Round of applause for Jason for being solo last week. I know it wasn't easy for you, but it's not easy.

SPEAKER_02

First first solo show.

SPEAKER_01

I'll be out of town. Jason, I I'm definitely will be there with you, but uh I'm heading to San Diego. Maybe I should check out maybe I should check check out UC San Diego, maybe. They you should they they play San Diego State. Okay. Is that a rivalry game? Go find out. No, it is not. I missed the rival game. That was uh San Diego, University of San Diego.

SPEAKER_02

So interesting. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

But other than that, guys, appreciate y'all for watching. My name is Kenny. This is Jason Ide. This is the Five Arms of Lucky Finn podcast. Thanks for watching. See ya.

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