SPEAKER_00 0:33

Welcome to the Five Arms and Lucky Finn podcast. I'm your host, Brendan Mulcormick, aka B Mac, aka the legend. I don't know. Also, my sidekick and co-host, David Soloway. He is for the people. The people are for him. AKA Big Diesel. Also, David, we have a we have a large case in the NCAA football right now. But before we get into that, I do want to touch base on the something that you know New York fans are truly one of a kind. If you have to, you know, punish someone after a bad loss, you know, in the middle of the streets. You know, sad thing that that happened. Pretty childish.

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Yeah, this is what this is what happens when a city gets so pumped up for a sporting event and then it doesn't go their way. Which I had a pretty good feeling about the Spurs going into that one, just because the hype surrounding it was too much. When there's that much hype, it's almost hard to live for the team to live up to the expectations.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

Yeah, yeah. This is true, David. This is true. And you know, New Yorkers, it's like it hasn't happened in a very long time. So I see, you know, the passion, I should say, of it. And you know, sadly, you know, they are up two to one, but as we see right now, it's looking like it could be 2-2.

SPEAKER_01 2:01

Could be headed back to San Antonio. I I have a question for you: which cities fans are the worst? Because I'll put it out there. I think Philly fans get it get a bad rap. Because the reason Philly fans are in the spotlight so much is because Philadelphia sports on the whole are actually pretty successful. Whereas you don't hear from Knicks fans much because New York sports as a whole are very unsuccessful.

SPEAKER_00 2:29

Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 2:31

I think if the Knicks were better, if New York teams were better, if the Yankees had been better over the past 20 years, I think you would hear a lot more about how shitty New York fans are as human beings.

SPEAKER_00 2:42

They got my boy uh Darton Scadabow, though, over there at the New York Giants. He'll be all right.

SPEAKER_01 2:47

Come on, man. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

I got my boys over there. I got my boys. Yeah, your boys. You're too loaded. You're too loading over there. Now I'm a big Colts fan. So don't but I do enjoy watching them. They're they're fun to watch. But honestly, I think I I have to say the worst fans. Like, are we talking pro sports or like as cities? You said, right? You said cities.

SPEAKER_01 3:11

Just like, yeah, like pro sports times, because like if we want to do college, then I think that opens a whole different say that. That's a whole different different question, right?

SPEAKER_00 3:19

But correct, correct.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Pro sports, I think it really comes down to people associate team cities that have some success with bad with with like shitty sports fans. Not not like bad sports fans in that they're not good fans, but that they're shitty people. Like I I think that's why Philly's got a bad rap. I think it's it's showing here with the Knicks. When you uh when you can bully the little guy because your team's on top, it makes you seem a lot worse than you are.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

I have to go with Philly fans. Although I've never really, besides Sean Green from the Sports Gambling podcast and a couple co-workers who are oddly enough, uh Eagles fans, um, especially living in West Texas, that's just kind of weird. But they are just they're so like like annoyingly passionate, if that makes sense. Like they could win against the the slummiest of teams, meaning the losingest of teams, like they got two wins, and oh, the Eagles beat them, and it's we got another win, got another win. Doesn't even matter how by how much they just dismiss the fact. And I'm gonna have a hot take here. I think Jalen Hurts is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL. So there you go. There's my contribute to the Philly fans out there.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

I mean, yeah, the Hurts thing, whole different, whole different conversation, right?

SPEAKER_00 4:40

But yeah, we can talk about that later.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

I think Eagles fans are definitely a rare breed in that they're well, I guess Philly fans in general. Philly fans, and I'm one of them. I'm a Philly, yeah. Yeah, you're filled with Philly fans have a very high expectation of their teams, and even if their teams are meeting their expectations, Philly fans find a reason to say that their team's not actually as good as their record shows. It's like the Eagles, what was it, a couple years ago? They wanted Sirianni out because they had a one-down year, and then even halfway through the season when they were in their Super Bowl season, they were like eight and two, and the fans were like, Yeah, we're eight and two, but the coach isn't good enough. Like, this team's never gonna it's the same thing with the Phillies every year for the past three years. The Phillies have been on top of the NL two of the past three years. Every year it's like these guys aren't gonna hit when it comes October. Now, they've been right about the Phillies, but I think they just have such high expectations. Whereas you don't hear about Knicks fans because the expectations are never high. Jets fans, but when do when do you when did you last hear from a Jets fan? Jets fans don't exist. They're not out there bragging about their team, they're not out there, they're not out there trying to tear down their team from being good and saying that they've got these flaws that people aren't seeing. No, they're saying this team sucks. We don't even want to be fans of them.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Solid take, solid point. I would have to agree. I would have to agree. You know, you New York Jets fans, talk about a fan base that has been through it since we've been alive.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Especially if you're a Jets and Mets and Knicks fan, dude, what an awful existence.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

It's just brutal.

SPEAKER_01 6:27

There's been no success for those three franchises since we were born.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Heck no. Man, you know, I really hope because the Jets have taken multiple Indiana football players from last year's team and they turn it around because that'd be really cool to see at a pro level them affecting that team. So I'm kind of rooting for our boy Omar Cooper and D'Angelo Pons.

SPEAKER_01 6:57

So totally agree. They're my uh they're my favorite team right now.

SPEAKER_00 7:01

I I have debated which jersey I'm gonna buy from that team at the pro level. It's obvious, it's obviously gonna be Nando, but it's between Omar and Pons for me. They were probably besides Fernando, some of my favorite Hooters. I mean, Omar is your OG, right? Not to go off on a tangent. So, you know, it's tough right now.

SPEAKER_01 7:21

I don't know which one I'm gonna choose, but yeah, Omar, I don't like the number he got, 83. Not a fan, so I would not get that OG.

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Yeah, it's just an odd number for him.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

I mean, he was number three, and if you're gonna be a receiver, then you gotta an eight the 80s are the numbers, right?

SPEAKER_00 7:39

But right. But the only person I knew that wore 83 was like Brandon Stogeley. That was years ago.

SPEAKER_01 7:47

What a poll. There, dude, there have been so many guys who have worn 83 since today.

SPEAKER_00 7:52

Well, haven't been paying attention since then. Tell you what, have not paying attention, maybe because I only watched the Colts. I don't know. Yeah, but oh Wes Walker. Wes Walker did.

SPEAKER_01 8:03

Yeah, he may have.

SPEAKER_00 8:04

Yeah, I think he did.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

Or was he 84?

SPEAKER_00 8:08

Oh, ooh, let's see.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

He was 83. Good call. That's what I thought. Good call. I think Randy Moss may have been 84 when he was at the end.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Yes, Randy Moss was 84. That's what I was thinking. So, yeah, I got some good polls back in the day. There you go. I need the NFL to step up and get me engaged again, David. That's what it is. Right? Be honest. Uh, it's it's been tough the past couple years, especially because the Colts have been on the decline. The decline. But, David, breaking news out of Lubbock, Texas.

SPEAKER_01 8:47

And there's a connection here between Omar Cooper and this guy.

SPEAKER_00 8:51

There is. Play it together. Yeah. There is. But the NCAA has allowed Brennan. No. No. The the ruling, the court ruling, not the NCAA. The court ruling has allowed Brennan Sorsby to be eligible because the NCAA has no power. Sorry for my wording there, ladies and gentlemen. Sorry for the wording. David, obviously, there's a lot to unfold, but let's uh let's take it back and unwind all this information as it came to us. Obviously, when it first broke, Brendan Sorsby was caught gambling. We didn't know really the reach of it or the cause or how many bets or money or anything like that. Really the the the gritty details, as the folks back home would want. Um, and that we were all waiting for. And then more information starts getting released, right? More information, and me and you were kind of texting about it, and obviously he had started placing bets when he was at Indiana University, and then Molly was at Cincinnati, and then Molly was at Texas Tech. All three destinations, and it was over 2,000 bets, over 90,000, over 90k, and somehow Brendan Soresby has eligibility by the courts, David. So give us your opinion on this.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

Yeah, so I mean the basic timeline here is that the NCAA found out in March that this had been happening. They they probably didn't know at the time what the scope of it was, they probably didn't know it went back to 2022, they just knew that he had been placing bets recently and they they got a tip basically.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

By a sports by sports book, I'm boarding.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

Yep, exactly. And so then shortly thereafter is when Texas Tech was notified. Texas Tech, I assume, took it to him. He they they they get their PR team together and they're like, we're gonna send him to rehab to make it seem like this is an addiction problem. Which, if you're spending $90,000 when you're a multimillionaire like he is, as a college athlete, we can call that addiction if we want. Sure. It is. Is it $2,900 bets? $90,000 as compared to his income is not that much. It's not like he's betting over his his his skis, right? He that he has the money to afford $90,000, and $2,900 bets is nothing. Do I've I've made $2,900 bets this year. That's that's absolutely nothing.

SPEAKER_00 12:00

But not like to that extent.

SPEAKER_01 12:04

Some of his bets were like parlays that he's throwing a buck on. You could you could throw together 20 parlays in a day.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Uh I see you know, fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 12:15

It's just to have to have some action. We can we can call it an addiction, and and I think gambling addictions are going to become a lot more prevalent in our society moving forward just because of the way the sports folks have infiltrated everything. So I think that this is kind of a an entry point into uh that discussion, which I think is separate. And I think, but I think they set this up as him being a victim of an addiction from the very beginning. That's where I want to start. That's that maybe that's just my opinion, but we're gonna get to some statements today, correct? Um, from the AD, especially, where they are painting him in the light as if he's a victim for this. But anyway, after that, he goes to rehab for I think like a month, month and a half, something like that. Yeah, it was mid mid-April to it had to have been mid-May because he just recently had all this court battle and such. But the NCAA then rules him ineligible. Just like every other sport from the beginning of time, if you bet on your sport, you are not allowed to play in that sport. Correct. We've seen examples of this at every level, college, pro, every league. We've seen it most recently. I think the biggest example is uh Jontay Porter, Terry Rozier, those guys in the NBA where all this came out. It was a federal federal investigation, especially in the Terry Rosier. I know.

SPEAKER_00 13:46

And there's another one even at the NCA level where it was at like a mid-major conference, and it was like 60,000 that they're paid under, and then state one recently. Yes, correct.

SPEAKER_01 14:00

Yeah, yeah. And and if we can get into that conversation at the end of this, those guys can just take this to court and they're gonna be eligible to play next year. But correct. Um, so we've seen this at every level. Pete Rose is a famous example. The Black Sox in the 1919 World Series are a famous example. This has gone on forever. If you get caught, you get banned from your sport. Those are the rules.

SPEAKER_00 14:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

Well, the NCAA then gets an appeal from Soresby. They say, No, you're not eligible. Like, this is not happening. And then they take it to court. And the ruling comes down on Monday that a judge, which the original judge was a Texas Tech alum, he recused himself. Props to him, man. Props to him for recusing himself, because he totally wouldn't have made the same decision, right? Anyway, then they bring in a guy from Houston, another judge, but they but the hearing's still held in Lubbock County, so there's still public pressure surrounding it because that's where Texas Tech is. And so this judge gives them an injunction. Even if the NCAA filed an appeal, it's not going to be heard until after the football season is over. So at this point, he's effectively eligible to play the final 10 games plus any postseason games. In the in the judge's decision, it was ruled that he'd have a two-game suspension to start the year. And that's where everything gets interesting because now we've got all this this pressure from the Big 12 AD saying that they shouldn't play him. And I think that's where we should start our conversation is on a moral level, if you have this type of situation where every single time someone has ever been caught betting on their sport, they have been ruled ineligible. Should Texas Tech do the right thing to uphold the standard that everyone has lived lived with ever since sports became a thing, and they don't have to rule ineligible, just say, hey, we're not gonna plan. For the good of the sport, we're not gonna plan. We don't think it's right. What do you think?

SPEAKER_00 16:18

For those of you who don't know, I live in Lubbock, Texas.

SPEAKER_01 16:22

I have those guys putting on the public pressure.

SPEAKER_00 16:26

I have season tickets to Red Raider football, Red Raider basketball. I this would be my first season for football. I've been a basketball holder for quite a few seasons now. I believe this going into it will be my fourth season for basketball. Texas Tech University, do the right thing. I'm looking at you through this camera lens. You know the right thing to do. Will you do it? Is the question. That is my question to you. And I hope you do it, but the right thing to do is to not play Brendan Swordsby the rest of the season. Sure, keep him on the team. Understand it. Keep him on the team. You paid him. If this is truly an addiction, David, and I'm putting myself uh in my shoes as a father right now, would you want your kid to continue to play sports?

SPEAKER_01 17:32

If he can make seven million dollars doing it and it's one more year, yeah, I would.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 17:39

Go get the bag.

SPEAKER_00 17:41

Yeah, fair enough.

SPEAKER_01 17:42

If we're saying that rehab actually works, yeah, then he should be good, right?

SPEAKER_00 17:51

If if it was really an issue in the beginning, like you said. And I really do feel like it's more of a sob like story, and they're trying to spin it off as that. But I I just from a standpoint as a fan and the integrity of the game, you you can't you can't play Brendan Soresby. You you just you can't. If you want to gain respect from other programs and other college teams across the country, there is a very strong line that should be held at any university. I mean, David, you went to Indiana University, and I know for a gosh thing fact if this happened in the football program right now, that Signeti would probably have this guy cut. Am I wrong?

SPEAKER_01 18:45

No, you're 100% right.

SPEAKER_00 18:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

Now we don't know for a fact, but right, obviously, but I'm playing devil's advocate here.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

I'm almost positive that that would not be held at in your university. I know if Purdue Fort Wayne had a football team, it would not be held there. Most institutions wouldn't even allow this guy to stay on the roster. Not saying they wouldn't help help him get help, but he would not be on the roster, he would not be in team meetings, and so tech knows what to do. It the question is, will they do it?

SPEAKER_01 19:29

And that's where I think the AD's comments become interesting. And I'm just gonna I'm just gonna read them all here.

SPEAKER_00 19:36

Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

He said Brendan Sworesby has not played a single down of football as a red raider. He'll miss the first two games of the 2026 season under the terms of the court's ruling. All right, great. What happens after that will depend in no small part on how his recovery continues to progress. We're taking it one day at a time as he is, and that's where I think I think they're setting this up two ways. I think that right there is them giving themselves an hour to say, hey, you know what? He's actually he's not gonna be ready. We're taking a day a day at a time, and he's not gonna be ready by the season. So we're just gonna we're gonna leave him on the roster, we're gonna keep him in meetings, he can be around the team, but we don't think that he's he's gonna be able to play football here. I think they're giving themselves an out to do that. Yeah, I don't know the problem is while they're giving themselves an out to do that, they're also doubling down at the same time. And that's that's where the problems for me come in. Especially in his statement, he says where is this? The integrity of sport matters, so does the integrity of how we treat a 22-year-old who sought help, entered residential treatment, and is working every day toward recovery. Those two things don't have to be in conflict. They do though, they can be in conflict, but the integrity of the sport depends solely on if the fans watching it believe that it is a real product with no rigging going on, and we can get into the conversation of he never bet against his team, whatever. Right. There's it's it's a it's not the biggest of leaps to go from betting on your team to be like, oh, I know that our our starting linebackers hurt, but I don't think our defense is gonna play great today. This time I'm gonna take the over for the other team. It's not that that big of a leap to to take that to go from betting one to the other. And so the integrity does matter, and them saying that the integrity of how we treat a 22 year old who sought help also matters. Shut the fuck up. He's you said it right there in your statement, Kirby. He's 22. He's an adult. He can get support. He can get support from the university without having to be eligible to play football. Yeah. Those two, those two things don't go hand in hand. He doesn't have to be able to play football to get over his gambling addiction. No. If he goes through treatment and can get over it, that does not require him to also play football. And that's where they are trying to play both sides of the fence here. They're leaving it open to, oh, down the line, we could just say we don't want to play him. And at the same time, they're saying it is so important that this guy stays on our team so that he gets the help and structure he needs. Give me a break.

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Yeah, it's it's almost like they're trying to like keep the possibility to like kind of you know say to other teams like, oh, you don't know who you have next for who's playing quarterback for us. I feel like that's part of it, right? But also it's just it's just it's so asinine to me to say those type of things around this situation right now.

SPEAKER_01 23:15

Yeah, and then and then we can get into both Cody Campbell and uh the coach Joey Maguire said at least he didn't murder someone, at least he didn't he didn't beat somebody. Are you are you kidding me? Those are not that's not what we are talking about.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

No, not at all.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

We we can all agree, we can all agree that someone who murders someone, yeah, they shouldn't play either. Great. Probably beats their girlfriend, beats their wife, beats their kid. Yeah, no, they shouldn't play either. Probably we can all agree on both of those things. We can also all agree. Oh, you bet on your sport, you bet on a game that you could have played in. We all agree you shouldn't play. We all we can all agree on all three of these things. Yeah, comparing that the that to another thing is insane. And Cody Campbell, I think, said there's gonna be guys that play in college football this year that did that beat someone. It's like okay, that then then again, we all agree that's bad. Yeah, they did not ruin the integrity of their sport by doing so. He did. That is the difference between those two things.

SPEAKER_00 24:32

That is the difference, and they're trying to basically say, like, one wrong can't make another wrong bigger, or you know what I'm trying to say. Like basically, two wrongs don't make a right as well.

SPEAKER_01 24:45

They're basically trying to say, they're trying to say gambling is not even close to as bad as murder. And in in public society out there in the real world, I agree, gambling doesn't really harm anybody other than yourself, maybe your family if you're if you're throwing away your your family's hard-earned money, sure. Whereas murdering someone, yeah, that's a bigger deal. But when it comes to sports, the gambling one is bigger. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 25:13

Yeah, and it's here's my other take, David. Do you think I don't know how you do it, but do you think sports gambling should just be done in general because how it's affecting sports right now and people?

SPEAKER_01 25:27

It it's not gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 25:29

I agree. There's too much money into it. Way too much.

SPEAKER_01 25:33

And the the yeah, the cat's already out of the bag, or whatever that's saying is cat in the hat, cat in the bag, whatever. We can't we can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

SPEAKER_00 25:45

You think it'll be legal in all 50 states? At some point, yeah, it'll be a while, but at some point, I mean, we're always we're all already trying to find ways around a poly market and different calci and all these different same stuff, yeah. Yeah, it is all the same stuff. One of them's just stocks, and they're trying to find ways to overwrite you know the rules and things like that with gambling. So it's it's only a matter of time. In fact, I could see you know FanDuel and DraftKings just trying to push for legislation so much at these states just to give in because of Calci and all the other ones that are already finding ways around it.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Yeah, but and even if they don't, a prediction market, you're just simply placing money on something you think's gonna happen, which is essentially gambling, you know.

SPEAKER_00 26:30

Yes, essentially, essentially it is. Essentially it is. What do you think they will do though? What do you think Texas Tech will do?

SPEAKER_01 26:42

I think they're gonna dig their heels in.

SPEAKER_00 26:45

I think so too.

SPEAKER_01 26:46

So are all of their opponents. I think the Big 12 is I think the Big 12 commissioner has the worst job in sports right now. I agree because he has his premier football program who went to the playoffs last year, won the conference title, and is not blown out. They did, but they were still, I mean, they were the class of the Big 12 last year. The only other yeah team up there, I guess, was BYU, right? Yeah, just basically those two, yeah, and Texas Tech's the favorite again this year. So his job's tough because he needs that team to perform and possibly go further in the football, the college football playoff and make more money for the conference. But I'm sure that all those other ADs, and we've seen reports, those other ADs do not want Texas Tech to play this guy because it is against the spirit of the sport, spirit of the rules.

SPEAKER_00 27:40

They just know what to do, and I hope they do it for the integrity of the game. They know what to do.

SPEAKER_01 27:45

I think eventually they're gonna be forced to not play him.

SPEAKER_00 27:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Now, Cody Campbell did say something today about how if if no one is willing to play them, that's collusion, that's an antitrust violation. I don't think that actually applies here because there's no like CBA, there's it it it just doesn't apply in this situation. These colleges have it's it's a pretty informal thing where they can just schedule whoever they want whenever they want.

SPEAKER_00 28:15

Correct.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

Yeah, if they didn't want to play a game, hell if they tried to do a Texas right, they were gonna do that, they were gonna buy Texas out of their game so they could play them. Yeah, if BYU wanted to say we're actually gonna forfeit that game against Texas Tech, we know the College Football Playoff Committee is not gonna count that against us. We know that uh Big 12 standings, yeah, we'll take the one loss.

SPEAKER_00 28:35

I doubt they would, to be honest with you. I doubt they would hurt that against them for not wanting to play that game. That's what's wild again.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

I don't think they would, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

I don't think they would. They'd be like, hmm. It's gonna get really interesting, David. It's gonna get really interesting as it becomes more news breaks and and things like that.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

I I one of the stipulations of the court order was that they the college football playoff committee cannot hold him playing against them, even though they went against NCAA rules, which it is crazy to me that a court can just say that about a private committee who puts on a football playoff. How much power do you have?

SPEAKER_00 29:22

A lot, and the NCA has zero, zero, it sucks.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

And I I've heard a lot of people saying that maybe this is the tipping point, maybe this is finally the thing that blows everything up. Well, you heard you heard I don't I don't want it to get blown up. I love college football. I think we're gonna lose a lot. I think we're gonna look back on this moment, and it is going to be the moment that changes everything, and we're gonna look back and we're gonna say, damn, we had a good. That was more about money, you're right.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

He was asked about the current you know market, and he was like, I don't even want to talk about it, it's disgusting, right? Like, that's insane.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

I mean, dude, if Soresby's going for seven million, like that was his that was his rate, and you got other guys who transferred this year who were getting four or five million, guys who are unproven, and that's another talking point on Sorby that I want to get to. We don't have two right now. Is we're paying seven million dollars for this guy thinking he's gonna be the guy, and there's this whole hullabaloo. Is he the guy?

SPEAKER_00 30:41

Here's what I love about Signetti, Haynes, and Shanahan. They have a certain amount of money, and yeah, they might have asked for more money this year, but that was after they won the Natty, and that was from Cuban. But at the same time, you do not see Indiana being one of the biggest spenders, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:00

Even though social media would like they want you to think we are, they want you to think that, but we just bought our roster, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:09

We know what we paid for Marsh, we know what we paid for Hoover, and I get we're in the bottom tier of major programs. Yeah, like it it's on the bottom tier. They want to come to any university because of the staff that we have and the facilities. They want to be they want to bring that edge to get to the next level because it's been proven that that staff can they can do it. So it just gives me so much hope for any in a football, biasly. Uh, but I do think that changes need to happen. I I know we don't have all the answers yet, but every fan, every reporter, every person of the game, player, coach, they all want change. Yes, we understand that players need to get paid, but at the same time, me and you both talk, it's the integrity of the game. And so, Texas Tech, you gotta do the right thing, you gotta do it. You know what to do. It's up to you, man. I don't know what else to say.

SPEAKER_01 32:13

They're not going to. And and Cody Campbell, this dude, keeps going. He's he said it earlier today. He was like, Don't hate the player, hate the game. And I hate the game, I'm trying to make changes to it. And you know what? If you want to say that, good on you. If you're the one trying to make change to that the instrument, because it's all about getting this uh save college sports act passed through Congress. That's what that's all the discussion right now, right? If he's trying to say that, great, but he's playing both sides of the fence again. It's the same thing that uh that uh Hokut was doing in his statement. He's playing both sides of the fence. If you want to be the villain, just be the villain and say this is our quarterback, we're riding with him, and that's what's happening. I think that's what they're gonna end up doing. We'll see. I I think pressure, a lot of pressure is gonna mount. And we'll see what happens.

SPEAKER_00 33:12

And I'm sure Signetti will have a smart ass comment.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

Oh, he'll have something good to say in his next his conference.

SPEAKER_00 33:20

Yeah, I can't wait for that. That's just gonna stir up a whole lot of things, and I would love to play Texas Tech in the playoffs, so yeah, right, something like that. I would. I'd love, I'd love to go to that game. That would be a lot of fun for me as a season tech holder and India fan.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

So, real question going back to this uh is Swordsby worth all of this? A lot of the discussion the past few days has just been everybody's up in arms about this happening. If this were shit, who's a really good returning quarterback? Marcel Reed, let's say. Not the best quarterback in the country, but led a team into the playoff.

SPEAKER_00 34:01

I was gonna say Sam Levitt.

SPEAKER_01 34:04

And that fuck that guy. That guy sucks. No, get him out of here. Okay, uh, I mean, uh my brain doesn't work right now, but a returning quarterback, Julian Sain, another great one. Heisman Fire.

SPEAKER_00 34:16

I was about to say that.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

Yeah, yeah. Someone like that. If it was someone like that, I would say yes, the school should fight tooth and nail. They should want to get this guy eligible, and they should, if they want to ruin the integrity of the sport just at all costs to possibly win. All right, if you want Julian Sane to be your guy, absolutely do it. Look up this guy's not worth it.

SPEAKER_00 34:37

No, look up Brendan Soresby's stats against five up above 500 teams last season, and it's not that great, David. And that was in the same conference he's playing in now.

SPEAKER_01 34:51

Same conference.

SPEAKER_00 34:52

Granted, he has better talent. Better talent. I will give him that that he has better talent around him, but also just saying that's that's pretty pretty. I mean, Nando had a better better stats than this guy did. Fernando.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

I'm pulling up his pulling up his game logs just because I want to see it.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

I heard it, I heard it wasn't that great. There was a grapevine on the X. So yeah, against Cincinnati.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

He went 13 for 25 with 214 and two touchdowns. All right, solid.

SPEAKER_00 35:28

That's okay.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

Against Baylor, who was decent last year, 13 for 21, 111, two touchdowns. All right, 85 yards on the ground. All right, that's pretty solid against a Baylor team, a middle of the road Baylor team. And then in their final four games of the year.

SPEAKER_00 35:44

Yeah, break that down for me.

SPEAKER_01 35:47

Yeah. Uh, against Utah, 11 for 33. Oh. 221, 221 on 11 completions is honestly really impressive. It's the 22 incompletions that might be the problem there. He had an interception in that one against Arizona, 15 for 28, 154, touchdowns, interceptions. BYU, he was he was all right. 25 for 38, 300, uh, two touchdowns, interception, and then he finished out with a good game against TCU, but they got blown out. He's just not the guy, he's never been the guy. The only reason we know that we knew that, and he was fine at IU when he was our starter in 2023. He was fine.

SPEAKER_00 36:33

He was fine, but he wasn't, yeah. He wasn't the guy.

SPEAKER_01 36:37

No, he wasn't the guy. He well, he did have that awesome game at Penn State that we should have won. That game was sick, but besides that, Cincinnati. Yeah, I'm mostly joking. Okay, then he went to Cincinnati. Oh, I didn't see the Nebraska game on here. First game of the year, 69 yards and an interception. That's insane. Anyways, he went to Cincinnati. He they were pretty mediocre his couple years, yeah. You know, right around 500 both years, including last year, where they finished on a four-game losing streak before he then just transferred just to get the bag, and Texas Tech took the bait. That's what happened. They took the bait, and now they're they're hooked to this guy. And I'm wondering if Will Hammond gets back in time to play those first two games that Soresby is suspended, and if he balls out, if that gives them even more reason to say, all right, let's just keep Soresby on the bench so that we don't create this whole media firestorm.

SPEAKER_00 37:34

I think Will Hammond was always the guy. Will Hammond was awesome in that Utah game last year in the fourth, third, and fourth quarter after he took the next game, he kind of struggled, but that's not the point.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

Hey, we don't have to talk about that game.

SPEAKER_00 37:47

Look up his stats compared to Soresby against the same Utah team. That's what I'm about to say.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

Yeah, 11 for 33.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

So I I just, you know, and I know, especially being an Indiana football fan, we usually get guys out of the portal. Uh, we that's what we've been doing since we've had Sig. We've been rotating guys at quarterback. We never had the same quarterback two years in a row so far. So I get the portal, but also Signetti and Shanahan and everyone on that staff, they thoroughly interview these players that come through the portal. It's not like they they don't go after the biggest names. I mean, I know Hoover was a bigger name, but they didn't even touch really Levitt. We I think we believe I believe we did talk to Sorsby. I will say that.

SPEAKER_01 38:37

I guarantee you did too, and I think if you interviewed Sorsby, you would say upstanding young man, great young man without without knowing this information, which no one knew this information before March.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

Apparently, Indiana knew. Apparently, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

That's that's internet revers. We're not doing that. Don't take down our program. What are you doing, dude?

SPEAKER_00 38:58

This was before SIG. This was before Sig.

SPEAKER_01 39:01

But still, I don't want some, I don't want some violations to come down on us. Come on.

SPEAKER_00 39:05

Well, it'll probably be Cincy before us, but yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_01 39:10

But uh what was I gonna say? I had something good. What were we just talking about?

SPEAKER_00 39:16

How basically Signet doesn't go after the big name, oh portal. He does use the portal, but he doesn't go after the biggest names. I would say Marsh is probably the biggest name we've had out of the portal, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 39:28

And that was a good fit.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

So yeah, that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

I think Texas Tech has gotten themselves into a bad spot where their entire personality surrounding their athletic department is we're going to spend at all costs. It does not matter if if the if we see a ranking that the number one quarterback has a price tag of 10 million, I don't give a shit if this guy's a good fit for a system. I don't care if he's a good guy. Let's go pay the money and get him. And I think they're in it, they're they're in a dangerous spot with that because of this situation. It's gonna continue to bite them because the guys who want the most money are a lot of times just chasing a bag. They're not actually Sorzby's Storm was not going to Texas Tech to develop into a quarterback to go to NFL, he was going there because they paid him the most money. And if they've fallen into this cycle where they're just willing to pay anybody the price tag that they have, and it's worked for them, they've had a lot of success over the past few years, but it bit them here. They're also gonna take college sports down with them. And in the end, what did all that money do for you?

SPEAKER_00 40:43

A whole lot of nothing. But I will say this, David, before we before we head out, Grant McCasslin would not play Brendan Soresby, and I'll die on that hill. I know he's a basketball coach, but he would never disagree.

SPEAKER_01 40:55

I disagree.

SPEAKER_00 40:56

I don't think you would play him. I will disagree with you on that. I disagree because I don't think Joey McGuire would play him.

SPEAKER_01 41:03

Joey McGuire was a Texas high school football coach. I think he's the type of guy that would have the best morals of anybody because he didn't come up in the college coaching ranks where you have to be a sleaze ball. I think the pressure is coming from the top. I agree from the top and it's coming from the donors because the donors are have probably are they probably already paid him his lump sum when he got to campus in January. I'm sure I'm sure that's what my other thing in Hokett's statement is he was like, we didn't fund the the lawyer, we didn't fund this trial, we didn't fund the appeal. Bullshit, dude. If if your donors paid him seven million dollars and then hit part of his money went to the lawyers, you funded it.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

Yes, yeah, come on, yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean, come on, come on. As always, guys, yeah, hold on.

SPEAKER_01 41:57

I got one more thing. We can make it super quick.

SPEAKER_00 42:00

All right.

SPEAKER_01 42:01

Who you got in the world cup?

SPEAKER_00 42:04

Man, I don't even know. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 42:10

And and do you have World Cup fever?

SPEAKER_00 42:13

I do have World Cup fever. I did fly through yeah, I did fly through DFW. I almost bought a World Cup Dallas shirt. The wife wouldn't let me, but I'll tell you what, I almost did buy it. Listeners and viewers, I'm still trying to get into soccer. We're we're very much trying to get into soccer, I would say. I'm very new to the soccer realm. Uh I would say that I've adopted, I don't think I've adopted my team yet. Um, I would say you haven't adopted a World Cup team. Uh I mean I gotta move for USA. I I thought we were talking about Euro I was talking like Euro League, sorry. Yeah, no, I knew I knew. Yeah, Premier League team, I haven't adopted one.

SPEAKER_01 42:56

Hey, you can move on the trees with me. Nottingham for us.

SPEAKER_00 43:00

Not in Ham Forest. I I keep track of the stories. I know. You watch open addicts, my dog. I do. Um if I had a favorite, I don't even know the odds. Um, I'm not gonna take the one with the best odds, but I'll take the best odds has to be France.

SPEAKER_01 43:19

I'll pull it up, I'll pull it up quick.

SPEAKER_00 43:21

Here it's gotta be France too, right? Um, let me look.

SPEAKER_01 43:25

Let's see futures as we get into our gambling segment here presented by Brendan Sorsby. Spain, France, England, Portugal are the top four favorites.

SPEAKER_00 43:39

I'm gonna take Spain just because I like the favorite.

SPEAKER_01 43:43

All right, all right.

SPEAKER_00 43:44

Well, I thought they were the second favorite.

SPEAKER_01 43:46

No, they were number one. Spain, France, England, Portugal.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

I'll take Portugal.

SPEAKER_01 43:51

Oh, I'd like to go farther down. Big Ronaldo guy.

SPEAKER_00 43:54

Yeah, I'm leaning towards Ronaldo, that's why. That's why I took it. Yeah, I think he's got a I think he's got some. What's in the tank, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 44:01

Messi got his first World Cup the last time around. Ronaldo gets his first this time.

SPEAKER_00 44:06

That'd be pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_01 44:07

Fires up the GOAT conversation even more. That would be pretty crazy.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

I'm very excited though. I you know, the passion, the passion and the I would say just the state of soccer. It's growing a lot uh worldwide, I would say, with soccer.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

In my opinion, soccer's growing. The most popular sport in the world's growing.

SPEAKER_00 44:32

I think it is. Um and I think it just it unites people in a fun way. And I think, you know, part of MLS too, and just Sam Sarver with his electric modello uh cracking a cold one over his head. Uh it got me more into soccer. So I'm really trying to trend more to it. Probably the biggest Sam Sarver guy on the planet right now. Um, I really wish I lived uh in the Dallas Fort Worth area because I used to live 10 minutes from Toyota Stadium where he currently plays at. So really wish that uh I could go to more FC Dallas games. But overall, man, I'm really excited for for the World Cup. I'm really excited for Dallas to host it. I think it's a great city for it. And yeah, man, it's awesome to see people come together over a sport they're passionate about. So that's the main point I was getting at.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

For sure. I'm pumped too. I think having it in the US is is just really cool. It's the first time we've had that in our lifetimes.

unknown 45:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Olympics or world cup. Uh, I guess the 96 Olympics were in Atlanta. Yeah, but we weren't really so yeah, I think it's awesome to have it here. I think our team is actually kind of primed to make a little bit of a run. They look pretty good in the friendlies leading up uh in their tune-up games.

SPEAKER_00 45:54

I think we could win our group.

SPEAKER_01 45:56

We should win our group, and if we can win one knockout round game, then good for us. Yeah, I'm good. If we make a run, dude, that'd be awesome. Imagine how electric that would be hosting it here, us making a run. Yeah, I'm pumped. I like watching soccer, but I'm not a huge fan. They they are making some changes in this this World Cup. You can't time waste anymore. You you see this all the time. Ball goes out out of bounds, they take five seconds to throw it in. No, yeah, five seconds this time, or the other team gets the ball. I think that's gonna make it more fast-paced. I think that should be fun. I'm really excited for that.

SPEAKER_00 46:36

I love that rule because that's why they always have to add so much time back. Exactly. Because the left would have to count.

SPEAKER_01 46:42

Yeah, huh.

SPEAKER_00 46:44

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